help sizing out a sediment filter

**Driller1** · 01-02-2010, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by Gary Slusser

So tell us how you doing the liner and "shale traps" and reducing the ID to 3" thingies in a rock bore well, how you don't seriously reduce the gpm recovery rate of the rock bore well etc..

A 5" well has 1.0 gals/foot of water and a 3" has .66 gals/ft. That is a serious reduction in storage. That will require the pump to work harder because the static water level will fall very rapidly and much farther down than with a 5" casing. The static water level will be reduced if you block off certain areas of recovery flow from the 5" and 3" areas.

And that can cause water quality issues. That 3" liner will require a 3" submersible pump because the present 4" pump used in the 4" and larger ID casing won't fit a 3" "liner".

Also, cooling of the pump's motor will be greatly reduced by reducing the ID of the casing from 5" to 3". If the motor gets hot enough it will melt the PVC and possibly 'weld' itself to the side of the 4" or 3" PVC liner. That means you may not be able to pull the pump later without damaging the liner etc..

IMO, doing what you describe is a serious rip off of your customers when they could buy water treatment equipment to solve any of their problems that you sell your solutions to "fix"..

And if the state of MI is requiring this BS, it's another reason why the state is running in so much red ink and the cities and industries are failing while violent and other types of crime skyrockets and all that goes along with Mi's democrat politicians and their inherent mismanagement.

You are so not knowing what you are talking about. The liner have NOTHING to do with water production.
We don't hang the pump in the liner. It is in the 5". The additional shale traps go on the 3". Wells in my area produce 50/100 GPM. Just did a farm irrigation well the produces 700 GPM. The water is there, no problem. What a sad old ugly man you are. With your face I sure would not let anyone put my picture on the net. BTW, I don't charge for liners. I just tell other people that is up to the driller.

**NH Master** · 01-02-2010, 02:25 PM

Argumentative

Divisive

Condescending

Self Aggrandizing

Ego Maniacle

These are a few words that could use some serious study

**Driller1** · 01-02-2010, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by Gary Slusser

So tell us how you doing the liner and "shale traps" and reducing the ID to 3" thingies in a rock bore well, how you don't seriously reduce the gpm recovery rate of the rock bore well etc..

A 5" well has 1.0 gals/foot of water and a 3" has .66 gals/ft. That is a serious reduction in storage. That will require the pump to work harder because the static water level will fall very rapidly and much farther down than with a 5" casing. The static water level will be reduced if you block off certain areas of recovery flow from the 5" and 3" areas.

And that can cause water quality issues. That 3" liner will require a 3" submersible pump because the present 4" pump used in the 4" and larger ID casing won't fit a 3" "liner".

Also, cooling of the pump's motor will be greatly reduced by reducing the ID of the casing from 5" to 3". If the motor gets hot enough it will melt the PVC and possibly 'weld' itself to the side of the 4" or 3" PVC liner. That means you may not be able to pull the pump later without damaging the liner etc..

IMO, doing what you describe is a serious rip off of your customers when they could buy water treatment equipment to solve any of their problems that you sell your solutions to "fix"..

And if the state of MI is requiring this BS, it's another reason why the state is running in so much red ink and the cities and industries are failing while violent and other types of crime skyrockets and all that goes along with Mi's democrat politicians and their inherent mismanagement.

I did some checking. As far as I can tell, when the public act was passed with the water well codes the Republicans were in office. There has not been major change in years. Porky called me yesterday and we had a long talk about codes. I wish ours was like theirs in many ways.

**Gary Slusser** · 01-02-2010, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by Driller1

You are so not knowing what you are talking about. The liner have NOTHING to do with water production.

Yes it does or there is nor use for one.

Originally Posted by Driller1

We don't hang the pump in the liner. It is in the 5". The additional shale traps go on the 3".

A pump can only use water above its inlet.

Originally Posted by Driller1

What a sad old ugly man you are. With your face I sure would not let anyone put my picture on the net. BTW, I don't charge for liners. I just tell other people that is up to the driller.

LOL girl I've been around for about twice the time you have and it isn't what a person looks like that counts but I hear you ain't much to look at either. Well, except for your size.

**Driller1** · 01-02-2010, 04:06 PM

The pump is not in the 3". If we liner to is to clean a little dirt in the water. Nothing to do with a production. The last well had 180 foot of open hole under the liner.

Gray, stay with water treatment.